OK, I see we disagree on how to analyze your writing. I read it as "I will reap upon you" and you meant it as we reaped upon ourselves. Fair enough. I stand corrected.
Reagan era? The seeds of "fanatical Muslim guerilla fighters"? Winston Churchill warned of the dangers of the Wahhabist (where all of this REALLY stems from) Threat long before Reagan:
A large number of Bin Saud's followers belong to the Wahhabi sect, a form of Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relationship to orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvinism would have borne to Rome in the fiercest times of [Europe's] religious wars. The Wahhabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahhabi villages for simply appearing in the streets.
It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette and, as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and blood-thirsty, in their own regions the Wahhabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina.
I know, I know, another imperialist lying about the peace loving Arabs... Not only those who dare to disagree with you have their head in the sand it appears. These seeds were sown long ago and they were planted in fertile soil with little if any contribution from America. America is the scape goat but this plant reproduces itself with no outside force necessary.
AQ did post it's demands but did so incrementally. First it was US troops on Saudi soil. The troops left and up comes the "nit" as you call it regarding Palestine. The "nits" will keep coming Abraham regardless of what we do or don't do. It looks good to rail against "American Policy" when the true answer is quite simple. Force is all these extremists respect, thus the success of the surge in Iraq which I am sure you will deny has occurred.
I have a Masters in History but I am always trying to learn and I have learned here today but sometimes Abraham, evil is just that. Evil! Not once have you seen any American celebrate in the streets when Iraqi or Afghan or Palestinian civillians were killed by by American or it's Allied forces... accidentally or intentionally. Nor will you ever!
Do you honestly believe there were no WMDs in Iraq? War heads were found with trace elements. Ask the Kurds if there were no WMDs in Iraq. If there weren't, so be it but don't blame the American intelligence. Every intelligence agency in the world worth it's salt had the same intelligence. Were there dissenters in ranks regarding that intelligence. Of course there were but everyone hears what they want to hear... EVERYONE. It's human nature. What did the Russians have to gain by substantiating the same intelligence? The French who were oh so in bed with Saddam? The same intelligence (of course this was the French intelligence it's where they got so much of the technology along with the Soviets/Russians to begin with).
No Iraqi connection to AQ? Hide behind the "Saddam was a secularist" argument all you want to. Convenience makes great bedfellows. That's why the "hardline" mullahs are benefitting from the opium trade. What would sharia law say about that? Yes I'm combining examples from Iraq and Afghanistan. It's all the same conflict. But as you said, the battle was brought to us so now we take right back the them and we are the bad guys. Interesting.
I'm ranting... I apologize.
By Some Random Dude (not verified) at Wed, 2007-11-28 10:59
OK, I see we disagree on how to analyze your writing. I read it as "I will reap upon you" and you meant it as we reaped upon ourselves. Fair enough. I stand corrected.
Reagan era? The seeds of "fanatical Muslim guerilla fighters"? Winston Churchill warned of the dangers of the Wahhabist (where all of this REALLY stems from) Threat long before Reagan:
I know, I know, another imperialist lying about the peace loving Arabs... Not only those who dare to disagree with you have their head in the sand it appears. These seeds were sown long ago and they were planted in fertile soil with little if any contribution from America. America is the scape goat but this plant reproduces itself with no outside force necessary.
AQ did post it's demands but did so incrementally. First it was US troops on Saudi soil. The troops left and up comes the "nit" as you call it regarding Palestine. The "nits" will keep coming Abraham regardless of what we do or don't do. It looks good to rail against "American Policy" when the true answer is quite simple. Force is all these extremists respect, thus the success of the surge in Iraq which I am sure you will deny has occurred.
I have a Masters in History but I am always trying to learn and I have learned here today but sometimes Abraham, evil is just that. Evil! Not once have you seen any American celebrate in the streets when Iraqi or Afghan or Palestinian civillians were killed by by American or it's Allied forces... accidentally or intentionally. Nor will you ever!
Do you honestly believe there were no WMDs in Iraq? War heads were found with trace elements. Ask the Kurds if there were no WMDs in Iraq. If there weren't, so be it but don't blame the American intelligence. Every intelligence agency in the world worth it's salt had the same intelligence. Were there dissenters in ranks regarding that intelligence. Of course there were but everyone hears what they want to hear... EVERYONE. It's human nature. What did the Russians have to gain by substantiating the same intelligence? The French who were oh so in bed with Saddam? The same intelligence (of course this was the French intelligence it's where they got so much of the technology along with the Soviets/Russians to begin with).
No Iraqi connection to AQ? Hide behind the "Saddam was a secularist" argument all you want to. Convenience makes great bedfellows. That's why the "hardline" mullahs are benefitting from the opium trade. What would sharia law say about that? Yes I'm combining examples from Iraq and Afghanistan. It's all the same conflict. But as you said, the battle was brought to us so now we take right back the them and we are the bad guys. Interesting.
I'm ranting... I apologize.